Wall>photographs>u.s.national Park - Where Does That Come From?

The images in the FAA search are shown by bestsellers first. There are other criteria as well but top sellers come first

Keyword Morant's curve

I see one of yours on the first page.

https://fineartamerica.com/art/morant%27s+curve

No idea. I've asked similar questions on why virtually none of my Allentown images show up in the U.S. Cities>Allentown category. No one knows how these categories are built. It's nonsense that one can do a search for Allentown here and be shown none of my work.

@Jessica, thanks for the reply. Maybe I did not explained myself. I'm not talking about what image shows first. I'm talking about the sort of hierarchy or classification shown in each photo. If you open the Morant's Curve photo, you will see that at the top of the page it shows the same categories Wall Art > Photograph > National Parks> U.S. National Parks > Banff National Park, even though "U.S. national Park" is not in the keywords, title nor caption.

@Jason, thanks for the reply.

The site likes to categorize things in odd ways. Be glad its under parks and not some odd thing. There is no way to control it though as far as I know. Its a feature of some kind.


----Mike Savad

@Mike, thanks for the reply. I guess it is the way it is.

Yep. Some people's stuff was classified as really weird things. There was a thread a while back about it. I never noticed it, I think its mostly for google.


----Mike Savad

@ Bruno - I can see why you are confused - it's because the FAA search is not accurate in this case. Banff National Park, established in 1885, is Canada's oldest national park. Banff is NOT a U.S. National Park!

Jason. Your question is fascinating to a new boy learning how things work. I went to your site and clicked on SNOWFALL ON THE ALLENTOWN ROSE GARDENS and you have keyword ALLENTOWN visible. When I clicked on ALLENTOWN sure enough your work is not included there ....not even last in the rankings. Odd? I didn't Google it but maybe you would come up there?

I would think that you might come up last on the rankings but that you would come up?

I'm just learning but I have spent a lot of time putting in keywords I hope will bring traffic and posible sales in the long run maybe?

Anyone correct me but am I correct in thinking that GOOGLE, DUCK DUCK GO, and OTHER SEARCH ENGINES are separate from FAA search.

FYI....I'm learning rather than complaining but it seems odd.

As for park misidentification that sounds like a glitch and I can only imagine myself how any of this works?

If I Google for ... site:fineartamerica.com allentown

... one of Jason's Allentown photos appears in the first row for me. But sadly I fear that isn't how customers browse all the Allentown images on FAA. It is more likely that they follow one lead to reach FAA and then use FAA's search field to find others, which is clearly inferior to Google in this example and omits Jason's work.

I think I have seen websites that incorporate a Google search field to help users find things on their site. Perhaps FAA could help customers and artists by doing the same.

It may be the search is cross-referencing anything that says "national park" and grabs US and Canadian parks.

If that is the case, it's a good thing.

I think people mistakenly think that the search is perfect and will work exactly as they "want" it to work, thinking that is how it should work.

In the ten years I have been here, that has never been the case, and IMHO, it will never be the case.

I don't think the search has to work perfectly in the manner in which all FAA sellers are going to agree it should work. I think it only has to work and be as accurate as it takes to sell a bunch of art for FAA, with no concern about whose art it is.

The thing is, the FAA search is heavily, heavily weighted to bring the top-selling images and sellers to the top of the search. It may simply be that the weighting eliminates those images in favor of better sellers.

Jason - I see your work on the 3rd page if I search Allentown Pennsylvania

Tags have always taken people to the main search to see the top seller’s work but we have never had them like they are now. They used to show 20 of the most searched ones in the order we arranged our keywords.

When our keywords were used last year to suddenly produce a few generic tags I found the only way to stop weird things happening was to change some of my keywords.

Do you have “National Park” as a separate keyword? If so try putting “Banff National Park” as one keyword instead.

I had all my flower images suddenly called “still life” which was a keyword I didn’t even use!. The only way to stop it was to stop having the keyword “flower” on it’s own I had to put “red flower” etc.

I think the big problem is that although Google doesn’t look at tags a lot of other search engines do which is very frustrating.

Hi, I noticed that a very weird word classification that I once mentioned was fixed, so I would like to take the opportunity to thank FAA, thanks a million!
(Because it's not fair or kind if I only mention things when they don't work. I appreciate that someone, although certainly very busy, took the time and the patience to go and fix that word).

My slash pine trees are still under Slash, the Guns and Roses guitar player.

I have peace with it now

Chad. Yup it will work if you search for something other than just Allentown.

Still very annoying, considering the Lehigh Valley and therefore Allentown is a huge part of my niche. To be excluded from a basic search for Allentown is not very fair at all.

Not to mention that half of the images it does decide to show are from Bethlehem....

When I search for a very popular bridge in NYC by it's Name "Bow Bridge" Not only that bridge comes up but also violins (bows) and other bridges. The search is not very refined!

And the biggest problem with this form of indexing is - google will see it as spam. Because they know where these parks are, they know what the image is because AI can now ID these things. So its probably going to hurt the site than help. Not sure if the plan was to help google index it or not. Some sites let us choose the category, i'd rather go there and do that myself (though I would probably forget too...)

----Mike Savad

My 'winter wonderland' photos are sorted under movie posters. Wow, I would like to know which movie they were used for !
BTW I did not use the keyword movie.

Rudi.... Doesn't Bing Crosby sing "walking in a winter wonderland...." in some old movie? I'm sure if they do a remake maybe you could apply to make their movie posters?

Seriously I don't know if that hurts you in any way......I don't know..... though people looking for Bing Crosby might be disappointed he's not there on your display and sales site......maybe they'll find something else they like?

"Am I doing something wrong?"

No, you are not doing wrong anything. It is the same for all. Old piece of crap already. We try to survive bearing it. Lots of threads has been opened and closed on this subject. Probably some AI is being involved, but artificial intelligence is no cure for natural stupidity.