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Doug Swanson

6 Years Ago

Images That Almost Never Get Viewed By Faa Visitors

I was looking back at the images I have here and sorted them by hits, with the intention of "taking out the garbage". I see that there are some pictures at the bottom of my list that have been posted for a long while but have been barely ever visited by anybody, with hits in single digits. Now, I know that a large percentage of hits that come to the site are from search sites that index images and come back later to refresh their index, so presumably even a picture that's a complete dud for purchasers, after a while, should accumulate some hits because of the bots.

That's why I'm wondering, how could a few of these images not only never attract customer interest, but also never even get seen by a bot? I guess I should take the customer lack of interest more personally than the lack of bots, but what's up that a picture could be SO invisible?

Is there any reason to NOT zap these pictures? Would there be any benefit to reposting them?

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Kathy K McClellan

6 Years Ago

Doug,

That's an excellent observation and questions. I'll be interested to see what others have to say about this. I have often wondered why an image that's been posted for years had very few views.

 

Susan Maxwell Schmidt

6 Years Ago

Have you checked your old description and keywords? They could be cause for few hits. My oldest stuff has horrible keywording, I fix 'em as I come across them.

You want bots, post those pieces to Twitter and wait 2.37 seconds.

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Susan Maxwell Schmidt
So-so Board Moderator and
Artist Extraordinaire

 

Edward Fielding

6 Years Ago

I always find a couple that seem to be immune to hits. Even if I promote them, something prevents the hits from showing on these images. I think it is some kind of system error.

You could reload them and see if that makes a difference.

 

Susan Maxwell Schmidt

6 Years Ago

I just checked mine, the lowest has 41 views and the last view was back on 10.18. I also apparently have 8 images that haven't been visited since the middle of 2016. Probably in my best interest to fix those. Someday. Maybe.

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Susan Maxwell Schmidt
So-so Board Moderator and
Artist Extraordinaire

 

Toby McGuire

6 Years Ago

I've sold a fair amount of images with less than 10 views on them so I never remove anything based on low views. It just takes the correct person to see the image. Truth be told I don't even pay attention to views.

I only remove images that have unfixable technical issues or ones I decide I really don't like any longer (and can't re-process them to a point where I like them again), that's it.

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

if you don't advertise those images, they may never be seen. adding new content can bring people in as well, give google a reason to come back. if you have slow moving images, check the keywords, descriptions, clean it up if its old looking, and tell people about it.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

my lowest shows 5 hits, and i don't care much for it. the lowest over all is 50, but its a recent upload, but even the low ones i'm seeing have recent hits.

i've erased a few that were really bad, repaired others that needed updating.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Randy Pollard

6 Years Ago

If the image needs fixing can we change image and bring the same image back? The once that have less views.

 

Floyd Snyder

6 Years Ago

"Is there any reason to NOT zap these pictures?"

I have images that are way down on the bottom of the number of hits list but have sold, some of them multiple times. I think it is because of the way I advertise them. So no, I would not delete them.

"Would there be any benefit to reposting them?"

I see no reason to repost them. You may have links out there that would be destroyed and I see no reason to do that. As suggested, maybe look at the keywords and the descriptions and promote them.

 

Jessica Jenney

6 Years Ago

I've sold many images with very few views and keywords and no description (old ones) and then after a sale I go back and add more keywords and a description. Some images were even "strays" that I neglected to put in galleries.

 

David Bridburg

6 Years Ago

My JazzDaBri account I marketed very widely over the last twelve months, but not very soundly. I have 907 to 5731 views going from least viewed to most viewed.

Now I also added these same images from the DaBri account separately to DavidBridburg.com. I have 4 to about 50 views on each of those images. I do not market them on the DB.com account.

We are always trying to market broadly and specifically at the same time. Neat balancing act for those who achieve it.

Dave

 

JC Findley

6 Years Ago

No no no no no NO! Do NOT zap them based on that criteria.

Hey, if an image no longer meets your standards or you just do not like it, fine, zap it but do NOT do it because of low views.

Low views are a combination of things including not marketing that image enough but it also may be that the image itself is very niche' and there isn't a huge audience for it. That said, niche' markets without huge audiences are my bread and butter.

I could post image after image on here that have less than a hundred views that have sold. Many of those sold with less than 20 or even 10 views. I highly recommend NOT zapping based on low view count.

I could not even find how to sort by views. Where is that feature?

 

Jeffrey Kolker

6 Years Ago

I utilize the button on each artwork's page. I post to FB, G+, Twitter, Pinterest when I initially post a new work. Beyond that, I may on occasion retweet a work or two if it hasn't been viewed much or recently. Not often.

My lowest count total is 250 (something from last year). My latest work (posted on 10/5/17) has 757 hits.

I think the posting to those sites helps get the link and image out there. It has to be "out there" to get the bots to come and index it.

 

Mike Breau

6 Years Ago

What Floyd just said.

A while back, I noticed a number of old images had no keywords showing at all. so after reviewing them all, did figure that out

When I began putting my works up they all had keywords and using a semi-colon worked as well as a comma, but at some point all that changed.

The past few days, I have been going over all my keywords just to change all my semi-colons to commas and now keywords are showing.

Way too many new works to put up, but quit putting them up until this problem was corrected. Have about a dozen left to do, then hopefully might start uploading new ones again. Hopefully I may back to my earlier works again in the future to update to better keywords.

A slow progression to some much needed corrections!


 

Jeffrey Kolker

6 Years Ago

JC - click on the column heading arrows for views and it will sort them. There are little arrows by each column heading in the statistics section

 

Abbie Shores

6 Years Ago

Do not delete!!! I sold an image last year that I would never have thought of selling. It had not been viewed. It was. It sold!!!

 

Doug Swanson

6 Years Ago

I started this with the intention of going back to revisit the images that have not gotten much response. I've also had the experience of selling pictures that I least expected so I guess I will leave them there. It will be interesting to see what happens if I go back and change keywords. They're old images and some have quotes around the keywords, but then there are some that do have hits but also have the quotes. I also have to be candid enough to say that they're among my worst pictures, but then, others among the worst have hits and even sales, so that can't be all there it to it.

It will be interesting to see what happens if I do some cleanup.

 

Abbie Shores

6 Years Ago

Very good idea, Doug. I do that regularly

 

Dan Carmichael

6 Years Ago

IMHO, a better question is why we are not supplied with a more useful stat than simply number of views

An Image that has been online for 5 days and has received only 10 views is theoretically more popular than an image that has been online for 2 years and received 100.

But sorting simply on number of views makes the first image seem to be a stinker when in fact, it may not be.

What we need is a more useful stat such as Average Daily Views.

Simple enough to program - divide number of views by days online

Don't quite understand why it has not been added.

Perhaps add it to the suggestion list. The Average Daily Views stat, and the ability sort by it, would be MUCH more useful than number of views.

 

Lutz Baar

6 Years Ago

Just put those images in a certain folder (gallery) and call them ” limited visitors edition” and raise the price a bit, that should do the trick.

 

Abbie Shores

6 Years Ago

Use your Google Analytics. That is what it is for.

Lutz, that was very funny!

 

Doug Swanson

6 Years Ago

Lutz - That's like in my old software days when we re-branded bugs as "undocumented features".

 

VIVA Anderson

6 Years Ago

Doug, re your idea to re-tag....I just did 10 , and the bots ( and their targets) went on a feeding frenzy.....anything for attention, lol,
that's me, not.

 

Mark Blauhoefer

6 Years Ago

I did most of my deleting in my free membership days, and that was a pain. A change of sequence numbering in the gallery and image page could be all it needs. Gives the picture a boost to new visitors rather than the old who don't click onto the next page.

Just try that - 'number 6' instead of 'number 743'

 

JC Findley

6 Years Ago

Thanks Jeff

I had no idea we could do that.

 

Val Arie

6 Years Ago

Doug - For the most part I agree with the others that say don't delete unless it is a image quality issue, and if you can fix it, don't even do it then, just do an edit.

None of my work has all that many views but I can see no correlation in number of views vs. sales.

Last month there was a piece that sold that I was thinking of deleting. There was something about it I wanted to change. I think it had about ten views, no comments, a sketchy description, few tags and was recently uploaded.



 

Travel Pics

6 Years Ago

How about rearranging the image order.... bring some that need more attention up to the top.

Never delete. You never know.

Maybe re-write the description and post to your social media channel of choice; asking your fans, followers and cling-ons - 'What's wrong with this image'?

Hey presto, more views. They have to look to tell you why it's so bad.

:)

Michel
https://photos.travelnotes.org/

 

Doug Swanson

6 Years Ago

I should do some re-ordering, along with re-editing and more keywords, although, I think I don't want what I see as my worst images too close to the top six that shows on my first page. Then again, given the experience of getting sales on images that I don't like, I guess it's all part of the crap shoot about what potential customers "really" want. It's occurred to me that, if I could discern exactly what customers want, I could post about 10 images, live off that income, toss my camera in the dust bin and sit back, self-satisfied and arrogant.

 

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