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Edward Fielding

1 Year Ago

Who Owns Einstein? The Battle For The World’s Most Famous Face

Interesting read concerning celebrity images postmortem.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/may/17/who-owns-einstein-the-battle-for-the-worlds-most-famous-face

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Ed Taylor

1 Year Ago

That is interesting and a nightmare for the courts and anyone involved. Opinions probably vary greatly.

 

Dark Pixie

1 Year Ago

It is interesting; however I can not agree with the Guardian; that his is the World most famous face.

Also as a brilliant a scientist as Einstein was; the is one who is leagues above him.

My hero and I am not is a least bit biased. Mind you I have spent the last 40 years researching him; including a 4 week stint in the British library.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton

It could be said that have very strange interests.

 

Chuck De La Rosa

1 Year Ago

Fascinating. I agree with Dark Pixie, I'm not convinced that his is the "world's most famous face".

 

Dark Pixie

1 Year Ago

Chuck; I would add that I am not claiming Isaac Newton's face is the most famous face.

There are many candidates and it would be impossible to decide on which that 'deserves' that title.

 

Dark Pixie

1 Year Ago

Ed I agree with your observation.

It is also interesting to consider whether courts in different jurisdictions would reach the same verdict.

In the case of Einstein they might not.

Sometimes it is not wise to open Pandora's box.

 

Milija Jakic

1 Year Ago

Worlds most fameous face after .. Merilin Monroe, Charlie Chaplin, Mona Lisa, Ghandi, Bob Marley, Jesus Christ, Jimmmy Hendrix, Winston Churchill .. and so on ...

Dark Pixie 40 years of research? May we see some of your work?

 

Tom Harvey was my father's best friend, and yes he really did have Einstein's brain in a jar on his desk. He seemed like a perfectly normal guy otherwise, I liked him a lot.

 

Toby McGuire

1 Year Ago

I could see Einstein as having the most recognizable face since it is so distinctive.

 

Dark Pixie

1 Year Ago

Milija

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/never-at-rest/2BF01FCE690260227B0BA9A617238A23

Firstly it is not mine!

It is probably one of the best work on Newton in existence it was written by a historian of science Richard Westfall.

''Born in Fort Collins, Colorado, Westfall graduated from high school in 1942 and enrolled at Yale University. His time at Yale was interrupted by two years of service in World War II, but he returned to complete his B.A. degree in 1948. He subsequently earned M.A. and Ph.D. degrees from Yale, with a dissertation entitled Science and Religion in Seventeenth Century England. The work was an early example of his lifelong interest in the history of science and its relationship to religion.

Westfall taught history at various universities in the 1950s and 1960s: California Institute of Technology (1952–53), State University of Iowa (1953–57), and Grinnell College (1957–63). He began teaching at Indiana University in 1963 and worked his way up the faculty ranks until his retirement in 1989 as Distinguished Professor Emeritus. He died in 1996 in Bloomington, Indiana at the age of 72.''

More details in the link below

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_S._Westfall

What he said about his writing of the book was most interesting.

Basically if he realised at the beginning what writing the book would entail; he would never had have started.

I have a book on my bookshelf that runs to about 400 page; it is not about Isaac Newton ; it is simply a list of books and papers that have been written about him.

It only covers the year 1672-1975 and is called

Newton and Newtoniana.

A link for anyone interested.

https://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1979HisSc..17..147F

So basically there is not point and I have no intention of publishing any of my research.

Unless I find something really new.

When I was in the British Library I spent a fair tome working through

David Brewster's Life of Sir Isaac Newton which run to many volumes.

What was interesting was some of the volumes were miss titled and were in fact about Brewster writings on Free Masonry.

The link between Isaac Newtons and the origins of modern Free Masonry are most interesting.

What is also very interesting is role at the Royal mint.

Two common facts that many authors get wrong is to say that he was master of the Royal mint and that was a sinecure post.

Why are they wrong

1) It was the Master of the London Mint (that was in fact a sinecure post)
2) They fail to mention he then went on to be the Warden of the London Mint.

II would note that a number of his friends Including Edmond Halley were involved in combining a number of mints to form the Royal Mint.

I would argue therefore that Issac Newton was instrumental in developing the modern notion of Money and also bringing about a stable currency in England.

It is not therefore surprising that John Maynard Keynes had such an interest in him

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes

What did Keynes call Newton?
This Newton “was not the first of the age of reason,” Keynes concluded. “He was the last of the magicians.”

Very interesting that could get me started on Newton and Alchemy ........

 

Dark Pixie

1 Year Ago

Milija; if that whetted your appetite you can PM me and I could provide you with a lot more.



 

Dark Pixie

1 Year Ago

I do note that this is far removed from Einstein's face.

It is worth noting that Einstein did has his dark side.

https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-dark-side-of-albert-einstein-f39c5554e31b

https://www.deseret.com/1993/8/20/19062114/einstein-became-a-womanizer-may-have-beaten-wife-book-says

Buy the way; these are not the only sources relating to the issues involved.

Maybe the most controversial aspect of Einstein is hinted at in the following article

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-forgotten-life-of-einsteins-first-wife/



 

Ed Taylor

1 Year Ago

Einstein might not have the MOST famous face but he is in at least the top 5. Besides, the point of the article was the after death copyright. lol

 

Rick Al

1 Year Ago

It should follow the copyright laws like everything else.

"Any work published before 1923 is in the public domain, as is any work produced by an employee of the federal government in their official capacity. Works published between 1923 and 1977 generally receive copyright protection for 95 years from the date of their publication. If the work was published in 1978 or later, even if it was created before then, protection usually extends for 70 years after the author of the work dies. Distinctive rules apply to works made for hire or works that were published anonymously or under a pseudonym. Rights for these works last for 95 years from the date of publication or 120 years from the date of creation, whichever is less. (If the author’s name is eventually disclosed to the U.S. Copyright Office, the usual term of 70 years after the author’s death applies.)."

(Justia)

 

Milija Jakic

1 Year Ago

Dark Pixie, thank you, I am not so much interested, I was just curious are there some works of yours about Newton, I know he had corespondance with Blaiz Pascal and Laibnic too .. during his sinecure work he continue to work and solve the problem with metal coins. Very interesting personality indeed.

I know about Einsteins wife because she was member of my nation, I was born in nation which give to the world Nikola Tesla and Mileva Einstein, what else should I wish in life :)

Problem with all of them, as their work was important and valuable is that few agencies took their work after they left us, fbi took works of Nikola Tesla, and mosad took everything after Albert and Milevas pass away.

 

Tibor Tivadar Kui

1 Year Ago

I am inclined to agree with him that not the Universe is infinite....

 

Milija Jakic

1 Year Ago

... but vanity of the people, not so sure about it.. :)

 

Edward Fielding

1 Year Ago

Re: Rick

The issue does not concern a work, it is about a well-known person's likeness.

 

Dark Pixie

1 Year Ago

Milija no works at present.

I am thinking of putting some of my research into say a blog: however, there are a lot of things I am thinking of doing some of which I might actually do.


Newton is a very interesting character. The issue is that so much to say about him.

His Niece (or maybe step Niece) Catherine Barton is a very interesting character

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Barton

The article does not really do her justice.

They were very close and my research into her gives some very interesting insights into Newton. That might be my direction.

All the others you mentioned are very interesting and in the case of Tesla very interesting and some what tragic, his death was particularly so.

He also was known to have long conversations with pigeons.

 

Milija Jakic

1 Year Ago

That would be interesting blog .. Newton said: “If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” but I think gigants were also his friends and Catherine Barton that you mention, because if they use to talk then they inspire each other at least ..

 

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