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Jim Hughes

3 Years Ago

Onedrive Messes With Iptc - I Need An Alternative

I've used OneDrive for years - no serious issues. But recently I started editing my IPTC keywords nd for a while, I thought I was losing my marbles - because the next time I looked, those changes were gone.

It took me a while to figure what was happening, but now I can see it right in OneDrive's status/history display. If I change a keyword tag, OneDrive picks up the change and syncs the file to the cloud. Then, maybe a minute later, it DOWNLOADS the file from OneDrive to my PC, with the original keywords restored.

I don't know the details of why this happens - it might be just a bug in OneDrive. I think it means OneDrive uses metadata internally for its own purposes, and isn't handling my changes correctly.

I'm sure many photographers here edit their IPTC and use cloud backup. What services are you using, and are you sure they're not messing with your keywords?

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Frank J Casella

3 Years Ago

https://www.ionos.com/office-solutions/hidrive-cloud-storage

I don't know if this will work, but thought I'd share it. If you find this, or another product by them works I have a discount referral link to share with you, Jim.

 

Chuck De La Rosa

3 Years Ago

I do use cloud backup. I've played with several over the years, Box, Dropbox, Amazon Photos, Google. I stopped using all of their crappy live backup software because it eats more system resources than it's worth. Every single one of them. However I don't recall ever having issues with metadata though. I have not used OneDrive.

I upload manually now. I use Google Drive for small things and some personal stuff. I primarily use Amazon Photos for one of my photo backups.

 

Jim Hughes

3 Years Ago

I found out that OneDrive added some wonderful new "features" recently to help you "manage your photos". One involves tags, and I have little doubt that's what's causing the problem. And who knows what they might do to my metadata in the future?

Frank, hadn't heard of HiDrive, are you using it?

No doubt there are new players showing up. Some might even be just reselling Amazon S3 through their own front end. A lot of games going on these days.



 

Chuck De La Rosa

3 Years Ago

Nice, Microsoft protecting us from ourselves again.

Yeah, Amazon S3 is just managed storage, like MS Azure, Alibaba, Google Cloud, IBM Cloud, etc. For many companies that offer storage it's cheaper to rent from one of the big services.

 

David Bridburg

3 Years Ago

I use Amazon's free storage if you are a premium member. In fact I am not a member of Amazon, but my folks are. So I piggyback there. I think they allow five family members to add an unlimited number of photographs. But the video storage is strictly limited.

I have a WD backup at home. It is easier to work with than Amzn. So as long as there is not a fire, the WD backup will be the go to.

Then offsite, I have my entire catalog on flash drives for my nephews and niece to have if something happens to me.

The point being, buy a WD backup. Because you can get free or offsite back up as an extra, but it is easier to have an external drive in the first place.

I think some of the backup offsite services, if you need them you pay to get your images back. But correct me if I am wrong.

Dave Bridburg
Bridburg.com
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Jack Torcello

3 Years Ago

I backup to Google and AWS. I also have hard copy 100Gb blu-ray ...
for peace of mind; and my 1/2 million photos or so!!!

 

Jim Hughes

3 Years Ago

There are lots of backup services. The problem I just discovered is that many if not MOST of them don't properly handle metadata like IPTC title, caption, and keywords, so you may lose it - and not find out about it until much later. I'm now faced with a lot of work to fix this, locally, on FAA and on another gallery site.

So I'm very wary of just switching to another cloud provider. I used to use AWS S3, it works great, it's secure, but I believe they also do weird things with metadata. I'm pretty sure I read that Google Drive messes with it.

Don't you guys all put your titles, descriptions and keywords in your JPGs as IPTC?

 

Eugene Nikiforov

3 Years Ago

Dropbox, Amazon, Onedrive, Google drive all are fine with IPTC, just do not turn any add on features like auto tagging etc, those ones are messing up the files. Also use it as hard drive, do not allow any types of auto import. When you import your photos, just use applications like FreeSync to back up your files on schedule.

 

David Bridburg

3 Years Ago

Jim,

My art is slightly different concerning IPTC. I could add it though when I had PS.

The marketing end of it is mostly manual. Adding IPTC is not that important. Other aspects of dating etc, really publishing dates and USCO registrations matter far more.

Dave Bridburg
Bridburg.com
Post Modern Gallery

 

Jim Hughes

3 Years Ago

So far I've haven't found a way to get OneDrive to leave my keywords alone. Where is the auto-tagging option that I can control?

The problem I see isn't auto-tagging, but reverting my changes to the IPTC.

 

Eugene Nikiforov

3 Years Ago

I just was reading some forums on the topic, OneDrive has a lot of bugs that are not fixed onetime both for photos and videos. If I would be you, I would not use it for photos, just switch to dropbox or goggle drive.

 

Jim Hughes

3 Years Ago

I don't think I'll ever trust OneDrive again, for photos.

 

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