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4 Years Ago
I guess not miljon but more that hundred thousand.
I'm just curious.
If someone from the crew could anser?
BTW:
My hobby is programming so I tried to do a program that counts all different profiles from all discussion pages, but these discussion pages can not be loaded with REBOL language.
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4 Years Ago
I think it's around 500k, though it's probably more by now. It looks like at least a chunk of those accounts are inactive though.
4 Years Ago
Yes, there was one answer:
https://fineartamerica.com/activity.html
"FineArtAmerica.com is home to hundreds of thousands of members..."
More than one hundred thousand but less than 999 thousand :)
4 Years Ago
I'm just curious. Just for fun. Not so important.
Athough it does tell something about potential visibility. Now 52 out of 500000 members have visited my profile. It is 0.0104% :)
Thank You answered :)
4 Years Ago
I am not sure the number is really relevant. I know people that have had an account here for more than the 8 years I have been here. Some of them tell me they have never sold a thing and they have not even logged on in years and years.
The potential visibility is also not something I think is really all that relevant. Mostly the people that visit your site or follow you that are FAA members are not buyers. They are fellow artists trying to see art, not buy it. There are always a few exceptions, but again I am not sure that number is relevant.
4 Years Ago
Petri said he was just curious. I too have a curious mind - there doesn't always have to be a reason to wonder something : )
4 Years Ago
Yeah, doesn't have to be a reason. It's good trivia. That's what trivia is, useless information. But it's fun.
4 Years Ago
I am just curious too. And that is why I said, "I am not sure the number is really relevant".
We have no way of knowing how he intends to apply them. But considering that 99% of the people that make inquiries about the numbers here are trying to apply them to something related to sales... I made the leap.
4 Years Ago
the amount of views you have won't matter, and all the members will never see your work probably ever. bots and outside people might look at your work. i think on last count it was like 600k, but if you want to buy and track things, you need an account and i think that counts to the total. and while i can't be certain i do wonder if pixels and faa, count people twice?
but in the end it doesn't at all matter. it won't help you much, if your watching your view counter go up, it means your not advertising outward. which is your job to do.
knowing how many images on here might be more interesting, but even then, i probably don't want to know. sort of like counting the dust mites i have living on my carpet, its an interesting trivia, but beyond that i don't want to know...
----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com
4 Years Ago
The real question would be how many are paid members. I figure most people just open an account and never come back after the first week.How many of the 500,000 actually pay and upload more then the 25 allowed with th free account?
4 Years Ago
and all the sleeper accounts, and how many accounts have people that are alive? or artists that have a number of accounts to separate their work from themselves. how many joined, just to read all of the forum. or do collector accounts also get bundled into the total?
----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com
4 Years Ago
Yup, agree Martin... paid and active... that would be nice to know for no other reason than curiosity.
Other than that, I know there is only ONE on my AW so that is the only number I need to know regarding membership.
4 Years Ago
.......How many of the 500,000 actually pay and upload more then the 25 allowed with the free account?
Less than you may think
4 Years Ago
Those numbers are not available in any meaningful form that I know of.
Most of the visitors you find on your images are not real people. They are bots or web crawlers indexing for one of the search engines.
If you are trying to get some numbers that you can use for something meaningful it may help to know what you want to use the numbers for. If you are just curious, that's fine too. A lot of us would like to know for no other reason than curiosity.
4 Years Ago
visitors, impossible to say. i may get 1500-3000 or more views a day, but how many are the same person, bots, or people here, is impossible to know. how many grand total over the site? impossible to know, millions?
but they may never see you if you don't tell them your here.
artists wise, i don't think i ever saw more than 200-300 artists here, according to the chat number.
----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com
4 Years Ago
I just find it comforting to know that most are not active in uploading or promoting, so do not get many sales and then ranking in the search. It makes me feel is is possible to move up in the search ranking here.
4 Years Ago
I’ve had people look at my collections without actually clicking on an individual image. They don’t get counted although it would be nice to know how many people are viewing my collections
4 Years Ago
Looks like Petri is a person who thinks in terms of math. So here is another question. How many images on this site? Some accounts have 25 or less and some have thousands of images.
4 Years Ago
I just paid the annual 30$ and I have hundreds of algorithmic images in my hard disk. Maybe soon I too have hundreds of Images on my site! :) My hobby has been programming since 1983 and after 2006 and I started to program with REBOL. It's very effective way to do pics. If you don't believe, take a look 300 images I just today made: http://www.petke.info/patterns/ I rapidly made with this short code: http://www.petke.info/patterns/code.jpg :)
I'm enthusiastic that I found this website :)
Petri
HOMEPAGE
4 Years Ago
You only need to search for art prints on FAA without searching any keywords and you willl see there are 15,195,393 images!
4 Years Ago
Subtract the more than 1 million images in the major brand accounts and divide by 500,000 accounts: 28 images/account on average.
Methinks the number of non-premium and possibly +/- dormant accounts is very large indeed.
That also tells me that those who actively build their portfolio with decent work and bring in offsite traffic have a fair chance at selling in the long haul.
Most people seem to give up if they don't see swift 'return on investment'.
4 Years Ago
making pictures fast is one thing, having people find them without keywords is another, and even then finding people that want patterns will be very hard. abstract selling is very very hard to do. because they are hard to advertise, and so many people have them. chances are if they are easy and fast to do -- then anyone can make it. be selective, choose things you would hang on your own wall - and CAN DESCRIBE. because this will provide meaning. many images like these can be made with a spirograph program for the android
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=spirograph&c=apps&hl=en_US
and if a buyer thinks they can make it, they may pass by the store. so be sure to only make things that they can't do it for themselves.
----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com
4 Years Ago
Petri, add more keywords. Your Pi image does not even have Pi as a keyword. Keep uploading! But load the images with keywords and descriptions first or copy and paste them after uploading.
4 Years Ago
Never let anyone tell what to sell and what not to sell.
It does not make any difference how many other people have similar or even exactly the same image. What matters is how many people see YOURS.
I have had people here tell me that specific images would never sell or would never be printed if they did. What they didn't know was the images had already sold, printed and were delivered to happy customers.
4 Years Ago
you want more than just pi and mathematics, like - numbers, and the various digits that make up each equation, square root, nerd, geek, etc no one will find it.
----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com
4 Years Ago
Geek? Nerd? Hah hah! Yes I'm, but...
Now there are:
algorithmic art, mathematics, pi, math, decimals, algorithmic, digital art, numbers,square root
Enough for me.
4 Years Ago
your making it for a certain kind of person, and other people would look for gifts for nerds and such.
----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com
4 Years Ago
Mike: My image comes last in first page in this search: https://fineartamerica.com/art/pi+decimals I think someone will some day buy something from it! :)
4 Years Ago
do you really think people will look up "pi decimals"? i can see people looking up specific formula's, or math art etc. or they may look for it by number and variants.
----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com
4 Years Ago
Yes, I really think that people who are interested about decimals of pi use that search. It's obvious.
4 Years Ago
I was curious too Petri, so thank you for asking the question.
Bradford has a good question too. The real question is how many are paid accounts? In my mind, that means, how many are serious artists? Again, just a curious question.
Mike, you get so many visitors to your site each day. That is outstanding! I am still in the learning curve phase. I get a kick out of seeing who is looking at my images and where they are from in the world.
Abby, does FAA delete account due to inactivity over a certain amount of years? I can't even imagine the amount of resources needed to store that amount of data.
4 Years Ago
as far as i can tell the site lives on forever, but if you don't pay and you did in the past, your stuck with only 25. i'd say a good portion are paid for, but that doesn't make them pro's or serious. many jump in head first and don't quite get what to do. only to come back years later asking why am i not making sales. i paid to be here, i want them now. only to find out that they didn't do may important things or have work that is remotely good.
----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com