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Nikolyn McDonald

5 Years Ago

Beverly Hills

I know this "visitor" represents lots of bots; I also know it can represent real people. I have had Beverly Hills visitors forever. BUT . . .

Lately I'd say close to 80% of my visitors show Beverly Hills AND the hits no longer look random. I asked about this in Bradford's thread about order, but no one picked up on it; so I thought I'd ask again here.

I am curious as to whether the new programming (maybe two months old now - that which puts keyword related thumbs below our images at FAA and Pixels if it can find them) could cause bot hits to look less random and more like potential buyers interested in a subject.

As I said in my post on Bradford's thread, I get Beverly Hills A LOT - more in the last few weeks than ever. At the moment when I posted, the first page of my Visitors log had 50 "Last Visitor" and all but one of those showed Beverly Hills. Many were random but within those 50 there were three groups of 4 images each that are clearly closely related to one another: Hot Air Balloons; Insects; and Flowers. And in those three cases, all four images were hit at exactly the same time, so to me they are clearly not real people.

Just now on the first page of my Visitors log all but seven are Beverly Hills - that's 86%. And I can tell you that seven non BH at one time is a lot for me lately.
The first five images are all old Victorian houses.
Then two very recent uploads (within 30 minutes) that I also posted to Pinterest.
Two more BH visitors that are the color and the BW version of the same image.
Eight assorted images, no pattern that I can see; BH among them but also other "visitors".
The rest are all BH and include several pairs, small groups, and one batch of nine in a row with the keyword "windmill" or "wind turbine" in common - all hit at exactly 4:47.

I am very happy with the new programming that puts related thumbnails below the images. I am just finding it curious that the programming is apparently affecting the way in which the bots visit my work.

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Jeff Sinon

5 Years Ago

I've noticed the same thing. When I just looked at my visitors, 40 of the 50 images on the first page are all from Beverly Hills.

I wonder, is there some way FAA can filter the legitimate visits from the bots?

 

Nikolyn McDonald

5 Years Ago

Thanks, Jeff! and are there groupings? Like are there pairs and groups of 3, 4, 5, images in a row, all hit at the same time, for which you can definitely say they would have a keyword in common?

 

Jeff Sinon

5 Years Ago

Sure looks like it. Not only that but I'm seeing that the vast majority of recent views on any given image have been from BH.

 

Jessica Jenney

5 Years Ago

Hello Beverly Hills! I almost never look at my visitor counter until someone mentions it in the discussion threads. I see 26 pages of visits from BH today! I can see images from the same gallery and then the next one etc.

 

Jeff Sinon

5 Years Ago

The thing that bothers me is that I thought visitor count helped, at least in some small way, with our search rankings. Does it matter if those visitors aren't real?

 

Nikolyn McDonald

5 Years Ago

Mine are more closely associated than "same gallery", Jessica.

Right now I have a grouping of three, all from the same church. The first two keywords of each are bell tower,first congregational church; windows,first congregational church; windows, first congregational church. I do not have a "Churches" gallery. I do have a "Doors and Windows" gallery, but the bell tower one is not in there and, indeed, the word 'window' is not even in the keywords for that one. So what these three images have in common is the phrase "first congregational church" as the second keyword in their string and the word "churches" somewhere in their keywords.

They were visited by BH at 6:17, 6:18 and 6:18.

Interestingly, just before the first one, BH also visited another church at 6:17, this one in New Mexico. It's first two keywords are churches,new mexico.

So if that New Mexico church was visited at random, it seems that the bot was next "attracted" to other images associated with it.

I have been spending a LOT of time trying to get my keyword order to be meaningful. I'm only through just over 1/4 of my images, methodically checking them. I'd say about 1/4 of the ones I check are fine as is, about 3/4 of them require revision. This BH thing indicates to me that I may not be just spinning my wheels, and that's why I'm so interested. If the bots follow those thumbnails and the thumbnails are based on keywords and keyword order, a buyer might well be expected to do the same.

 

Gaby Ethington

5 Years Ago

I have 12 out of 24 that are Beverly Hills, since 12/7/2018. Only 2 images are closely related and the others are random, some uploaded a few months ago.
On a side note, I was SO excited the first it time it showed up; oh wow a person from Beverly Hills looked at my art, haha, then I started seeing the discussion threads on the bots. :)

 

Debbie Oppermann

5 Years Ago

I have noticed that Beverly Hills will hit a gallery and go right through it and/or do groupings with some of the same keywords

 

Krissy Katsimbras

5 Years Ago

In the last week I've had almost 10,000 views, mainly from Beverly Hills. I've never had this happen in the four years on FAA. I haven't had any significant sales, however . . .

 

Nikolyn McDonald

5 Years Ago

Thank you, Krissy . . . and others. It's not as if I stake out my visitors tab, but I can't help noticing that, for me at least, something is very different. It's good to know others are seeing some of the same things. Now to figure it out LOL

 

James Brunker

5 Years Ago

I've noticed that Beverly Hills visits have gone into overdrive recently as well (last couple of weeks maybe), and "it" definitely seems to be visiting small groups of similar images that have common keywords at the same time.

 

Elisabeth Lucas

5 Years Ago

Sometimes when my family from Europe looks at my images with their cell phones, it registers as Beverly Hills. It doesn't happen all the time, though.

 

Nikolyn McDonald

5 Years Ago

3/50 not BH just now. Say what????

 

Abbie Shores

5 Years Ago

I live in Beverly Hills a lot of the time. As you know I don't, but the router I go through last to get here, is.

 

Susan Maxwell Schmidt

5 Years Ago

If the hits are showing up within seconds of each other, you know it's a bot. When a bot crawls a page, it generally follows the links on the page and crawls them as well, at least to a certain depth. This is why the associated artworks that appear on your page are being crawled at the same time.


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Nikolyn McDonald

5 Years Ago

Thank you, Abbie and Susan. Much as I suspected.

Now any speculation as to why the Beverly Hills activity has jumped sky high on my log while some of the other known bots have all but disappeared?

 

Marlene Burns

5 Years Ago

When using a VPN, you can be from just about any city.
BH could have just opened up as a new VPN location, Nikki

 

James Lamb Photo

5 Years Ago

I know that you are talking about the Beverly Hills bot running through galleries but also through single images. My image below has 28 visits from the bot over a 34 minute period, often multiple times in the same minute.
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Nikolyn McDonald

5 Years Ago

Just now on page 1 of my Visitors log: 47 Beverly Hills visits at 9:42; 3 Beverly Hills visits at 9:44

I think no one is interested in my work :(

 

Abbie Shores

5 Years Ago

We all are, Nikki!!! But as I say, Beverly Hills can show when even I visit. It's a router address. Also a search engine is there.

 

Nikolyn McDonald

5 Years Ago

Thanks, Abbie :) That was supposed to be a joke but I really appreciate your love :)

And Beverly appears to have finished doing whatever she was doing with my images, so now the other bots can get in LOL

Actually, I was just curious as
1) I was very interested in the like subject/theme groupings by an apparent bot; and
2) I had never seen quite as many visits from one place over a period of days as I was seeing.

My curiosity has been satisfied, so I'll close this now.

 

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