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Stacie Siemsen

6 Years Ago

When Photoshop Fails

I have often wondered if i should sign up for PS subscription but usually use the freebies instead.
This article with photos, shows how anyone can mess up with PS.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/celebrity/the-35-worst-celebrity-photoshop-fails-of-all-time/ss-BBBsinE?OCID=CALHeader

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Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

a lot of people are not that observant, or they are pressed for time, or simply don't know how to use the program, and then mess up like that. the program doesn't do the messing up though.

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Joy McKenzie

6 Years Ago

Yeah that is user flub-up. Or celebrity directive to a photo retoucher...and sometimes not. Sometimes it's an art director taking liberties with what they THINK someone should look like.

But Photoshop is an awesome program.

 

Joshua House

6 Years Ago

This is like when people blame cars rather then drivers for running over cyclists. PS isn't the problem its the user.

 

David King

6 Years Ago

If the user got the intended result how is it a fail? Most of those images seem to be celebrity touch ups for publication that were intended, (moral implications aside) very few of them were actual screw ups.

 

Floyd Snyder

6 Years Ago

I will never sign up for the subscription service. That is going to be just like cable TV, dish TV, cell phone service. When the sign up enough people, they will discontinuing the own your own product and that is when the rates will begin to be jacked up every year.

That is the nature of the "rental/subscription" business. The value of the company becomes a multiple of the subscription base and that makes it easier to drive the stock price higher. Then heaven forbid some on comes along and buy out the company. The new owners immediately has to jack up the rates to justify their return on the dollar.

Same thing that is wrong with renting your house or these mobile home parks where you own you own coach but not the property. You are at the march of the landlord that owns the property.

As for the programming messing up. I am assuming you are talking about some sort of failure due to working on a web based server vs owning your own program that lives on your own computer. And, yes that does happen. But not all that often or at least we are not hearing about it all that often.

That too is a big problem in my book. You have to have access to the Internet to use it.

 

David King

6 Years Ago

Another one for the books, Floyd and I agree on something again. If at all possible I will never rent my software either.

 

Susan Maxwell Schmidt

6 Years Ago

I intend to go down fighting gallantly to the very end, grasping my CS6 in my clutched, white-knuckled hand as we sink down together slowly, ever slowly, into the dark, silent horror that is the Adobe abyss.

Or something.

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Susan Maxwell Schmidt
So-so Board Moderator and
Artist Extraordinaire

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

i tried looking up features the new program has, and couldn't. so i cant even be excited to have that program. my old one works fine, and until it doesn't, i'm using what i have. as it is i have to convert all my files to DNG again, which is annoying, but i'm getting it done.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Edward Fielding

6 Years Ago

The photographer's bundle of Adobe Lightroom and Abobe Photoshop for $10 a month is great. Plus you can add other programs on a by the month basis. Besides it is a business expense.

Adobe Photoshop is a professional level program. If you don't need all of its capabilities there are plenty of freebies to use.

 

David Bridburg

6 Years Ago

Floyd and DK,

You both have subscribed to high speed internet services.

There is always GIMP if Adobe tries to go too far up in price.

LOL

Dave

 

Jeffrey Jensen

6 Years Ago

No one has mentioned the price of PS before it went subscription, not sure when it went subscription because it was not in my budget so why look? Now I have it plus LR (I did buy a version way back) and couldn't be happier. For quite a while I used Elements which treated me well.

Jeff

 

Joy McKenzie

6 Years Ago

There is no more support for standalone PS or Illustrator. At some point, none of us will be able to use any version anymore. And will have to subscribe to Adobe, if you want the full versions of products.

 

Jim Hughes

6 Years Ago

There's still a standalone non-subscription version of Lightroom but it's getting harder to find it on the Adobe site and despite their promises to the contrary, I think it will die a slow death by neglect. They haven't done much with it in years. I switched to Capture One long ago.

 

Frank J Casella

6 Years Ago

I gave up on Adobe a few years back when they didn't provide update for my DSLR firmware ... the solution they told me was to buy and updated DSLR. That is when I decided to perfect my processing of JPEG images. Like what Floyd said:

"I will never sign up for the subscription service. That is going to be just like cable TV, dish TV, cell phone service. When the sign up enough people, they will discontinuing the own your own product and that is when the rates will begin to be jacked up every year. "

 

Jack Torcello

6 Years Ago

Affinity Photo is a true alternative to PS CC. It does almost everything that Photoshop can do - layers, content-aware, transforms etc etc.

Affinity comes in at $89.00 - a one-off price; so after 8 months, you would be saving on an Adobe subscription.
It does not have a cataloguing facility - but personally - Picasa is good enough.

I do not work for Affinity - but I am impressed that there is now a real alternative to PS CC.

 

Ed Taylor

6 Years Ago

I once said I wasn't going to sign up for Adobe subscription as well but my older LR version wouldn't recognize the raw files on my new Nikon d5 so I was kind of forced too. I think it depends on how often you use the software to make it worth it or not.

 

Joy McKenzie

6 Years Ago

I said the same thing, Ed. But when my PS CS5 said my graphics driver would not drive anymore (and it was the most updated version), then I had to go to the subscription PS. It's the program I use to create, so I pretty much have to have it. Plus, I also run Filter Forge 6 (just updated to 6 the other day when they had a huge sale). I have to have them both running seamlessly.

This all happened after the latest Win10 update late last week...I think we're up to the 10.18 version now...and it knocked out my PS. I read in the Details of the Error message that Adobe is no longer supporting any version of standalone PS. I would imagine LR and Elements are on that list too. I absolutely agree, it depends on how valuable being able to use your program is to each individual artist.

 

Jim Hughes

6 Years Ago

The big issue for me is that with all their users on subscription, they lose the financial motivation to develop new features or even improve old ones.

Captue One is far superior IMHO, and I used Lightroom for years.

 

David King

6 Years Ago

I'm just a hack so I use PSP, but then again so does JC so I'm in good company, (not that he's a hack, obviously)

 

Jim Hughes

6 Years Ago

I used PSP for years, you could do almost anything with it, including some things that you couldn't do with PS Elements. That was 10 years ago, when it was still a JASC product. I gave up when Corel bought JASC and began - I thought - dumbing down the software. I lost track of it after that.

 

Joseph Westrupp

6 Years Ago

Uh, PlayStation Portable?


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Judy Kay

6 Years Ago

I have not used PS, PSE or Affinity,,How do you'll compare those programs to the new Topaz Studio program,,,or is that a totally different ballgame,?!

 

David King

6 Years Ago

"Uh, PlayStation Portable"

Corel Paint Shop Pro

 

Susan Maxwell Schmidt

6 Years Ago

Corel breaks everything it touches, Jim. It started with WordPerfect and has just gone downhill from there. I actually cried real tears when they bought PSP.

___________
Susan Maxwell Schmidt
So-so Board Moderator and
Artist Extraordinaire
"I am not crying, I got a pixel in my eye."

 

Chuck De La Rosa

6 Years Ago

They bought Bibble Labs and flushed that down the toilet too. That's why I went to Lightroom.

Jim they continue to develop Lightroom, but the new features are only available in the subscription model. I'm still using LR 5.x. My laptop is getting old and won't run the new version of PS, not that I need it. But $10 a month for LR and PS together is really not a bad deal.

 

Joseph Westrupp

6 Years Ago

Thanks, David.


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Justin Green

6 Years Ago

I quite like Pixelmator. Worth checking out for the price you pay for it.

Adobe do offer Lightroom, Photoshop and Portfolio for $10 a month.

Portfolio looks good if you require a website.

 

MARTY SACCONE

6 Years Ago

In my experiences,.....if photoshop messes up ,...
It's usually the fault of the guy behind the guy in front of me.

 

Doug Swanson

6 Years Ago

You didn't mention Mac or PC, but if you're a Mac user, there's a bunch of apps made by MacPhun that are pretty good and that integrate with Apple Photos. You do have to pay for them, but that are not all that expensive, don't charge "rent" and they allow you to use them legally on as many as 5 computers via an app store like feature on their web site. I'm currently heavily using Luminar (which combines a lot of features of their smaller apps) and, one of these days will download Aurora, an HDR program. They are slowly moving toward PC versions of their software. The MacPhun software is way easer to understand than GIMP, being mainly based on simple sliders, brushes and layers.

 

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