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Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

The Day I Made $442 On Faa

The day I made $442 in one day (I sold three metal prints) was last year in May. After finding out that the buyer came from Pinterest I started to take it seriously and learned everything I could about Pinterest. I would have never dreamed that someday I would create my own online course, but:

Done! I just finished creating a complete Pinterest course: http://marketing-for-artists.com

It was a lot of hard work and I needed way more time than I expected but it feels great. I guess I just had to do it... :-)

Why did I create a Pinterest course?

I love Pinterest, it drives about 90% of all traffic to my FAA Artist website and I get most of my online sales due to Pinterest.
While helping other FAA members to better understand how Pinterest works an idea was born: to create a professional course that will allow artists to make more sales with the help of Pinterest - and to sell the course for a reasonable price.

How did I do it?

I used a modern teaching platform. A professional editor reworked my funny German grammar (and took the whole course from beginning to end), two beta testers (both are FAA Artists) trusted me enough to buy the course before it was finished. They helped me refining the content by asking the right questions and provided great suggestions to make things more clear.

What other artists say about this course

Here are some snippets of the feedback I got during the beta phase of the course:

“I like the way you are presenting things. Well done, I'm hooked already.”

“You have me brimming with enthusiasm to try out your ideas! I am enjoying the course and think it will help a lot of people! Since I started following your course and advice, my average daily impressions are up 177% and my average daily users are up 294%. My average monthly viewers are up 494% and my average monthly engaged is up 404%.”

“Matthias, I think this lesson is good, easy to understand and follow.”

“I've been learning a ton, and am continuing to refine what I'm doing based on the course. Learned a few great things today!”

Where can I get the course and what does it cost? Is there a free trial?

Introducing: How to make more art sales with Pinterest (Pinterest Marketing for Artists)

The course launched today. It is on sale for only $97 for a few days, on July 24th the price will go up to $167.

In my opinion the regular price is still very reasonable compared to other Pinterest courses, most of them are in the $247 to $497 range. There are some really good ones out there, I even bought two of them. They are geared towards bloggers (Pinterest is big in the blog world, for many big bloggers it drives most of the traffic to their posts). I wanted to focus on artists.

As I don’t want you to buy a pig in a poke the first few lessons are free. In the first chapter (Why Pinterest?) I will even show you some of the FAA sales I got with the help of Pinterest.

Check out the course page here:

http://marketing-for-artists.com

Would love to see you in the course! As all of the lovely people involved in creating this course are FAA Artists I created some content especially for all of you :-)

Questions? Just ask…

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See My Photos

6 Years Ago

error 404: not found!
This domain name has just been registered.
Why is this page displayed?

 

Cynthia Decker

6 Years Ago

I'm guessing there's an error in the link.

I know Matthias has been a great marketer for a long time, and he knows this: First rule of online self promotion; get the link working, THEN promote it. ;)

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Hi See My Photos, thanks a lot for notifying me, I used the wrong URL. Link should work now: http://marketing-for-artists.com

Sorry, I was too excited... :-)

Cynthia: ;-)

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

If you like videos better:



Pinterest Marketing for Artists

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

that video is giving me an error.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

never mind i had my flash player stopped.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Thanks for letting me know Mike!

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Wow, you are really fast, the first users already registered for the free trial. Thank you!

I will be back tomorrow to answer all your questions (it's evening in Germany and it has been a long day). See you!

Pinterest Marketing for Artists

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

One last post for today...

If the video above does not work for you, I just uploaded it to my own website:



Pinterest Marketing for Artists

 

Medea Ioseliani

6 Years Ago

Congratulations on that and thanks for help before :) I am pretty sure it will be worth :)
I was reading your thread before and was actually to going to ask you to recommend a course :)

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

the question here is.... did you only make that 1 sale off of pinterest? or do all your sales come from there? i have a ton of pins, my own, and i think there are well over 150 boards now that are based on my work from other people. but i get very few hits. in 1 week i got 16 hits from pinterest. since i started there i got a grand total of 894, that's since 2012 or so. and not a single one of them lead to a sale. interestingly, they show that the daily visitors i get is also around 890. but overall i don't get much out of it.

overall i'm not impressed with pinterest. any time i end up there on a search, finding what i'm looking for is nearly impossible.

btw you should probably link your pinterest page on that link you had there...

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Leslie Montgomery

6 Years Ago

Congratulation Matthias. Your enthusiasm is contagious and you have been such a great help to many of us. I'm sure many good things will come of this new endeavor for both you and your subscribers.

 

Roy Erickson

6 Years Ago

As the saying goes - it take money to make money - Your course sounds and looks interesting - but I barely make my fees on FAA each year - and there is no other money to put into it. I don't expect you to change your heart and make it free - I would not. I'm just saying, go with it - but it's out of reach for some.

 

David King

6 Years Ago

I'm actually interested enough to purchase the course, unfortunately the system is declining my card even though it's good and there's no option for PayPal...oh well.

 

Bill Tomsa

6 Years Ago

Think I'll check it out. Thanks.

 

David King

6 Years Ago

Matthias added a PayPal option and it worked, thanks Matthias.

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Thanks a lot for your comments and your interest in my course, this really means much to me!

Your questions / comments:

Medea, thank you so much! I will still answer questions about Pinterest - of course :-) Feel free to use this discussion: https://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=3473271

Mike:
Most of my sales are coming from Pinterest. I drive all my traffic to my Artist Website https://matthias-hauser.pixels.com so I can use Google Analytics (GA). GA does NOT work for traffic that goes to FAA or Pixels so we can't track where sales came from on FAA. Most if not all of the Mike Savad pins (that you or others pinned on Pinterest) are going to Fine Art America. I would highly recommend pinning from your Artist Website. This is a snippet (a screenshot and some text) from one of the bonus chapters (Where should I pin from):

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Matthias Hauser Fotografie: Sonstiges für Blog und Website &emdash;

What do we see? This is one of the default reports. (The shopping cart adds are a custom addition, but it’s not very difficult to do this.) If you already use Google Analytics for your AW you can get the default report by selecting Acquisition, All Traffic, Referrals.

It shows my data for the last quarter 2016 (October 1st to December 31st). This is the main shopping season for most people.

We can see where the visitors were coming from (source), how many sessions, how many pages per session, the session duration and much more.

By the way, did you notice how many visitors came from Pinterest? Yay Pinterest, I love you! If we add up the international site (US) and all the localized Pinterest sites (UK, Spain, Russia, Germany etc.) Pinterest drives 91.16% of all traffic to my AW.
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The 14 Shopping Cart Adds are from the international (US) Pinterest site, there are some more for UK, France etc.
My Pinterest page is https://www.pinterest.com/hauserfoto - did you mean I should link it on the sales page for the course?

Leslie: thanks a lot, much appreciated!

RD: thank you very much, I fully understand that and would never talk anyone into buying something she / he can not afford.

David: many thanks! I just answered your PM, there is a solution.

Bill: thanks for checking it out!

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

David: now that was fast! Thanks a lot for purchasing the course! If you have any questions use the discussions in the course (so every student can see the questions and answers) or just drop me a message (via the support link).

 

Adam Jewell

6 Years Ago

Congrats on putting it all together! I think before I'd bite on something like that though I'd need to see screen shots of an FAA balance of $5,000 or $10,000. A $422.00 day is often one big sale and $750 or so in three weeks around the holidays isn't that tough. For $167, I'd want to see some big numbers that have been achieved and testimonials that take about more than a first sale or more traffic.

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Adam: thank you! The question is always this: Where do you come from (sales wise)? $744 in three weeks (on FAA) was big for me and Pinterest had been of great help. As I wrote in the first (free) chapter of the course: I will not promise any things that are not serious but if one puts some work into Pinterest, doing the things I teach in the course, there will be more qualified traffic (people with buying intent). This is all I can and will promise.

Think this way: If you would make one or two additional sales (due to this course) with a $300 revenue and then deduct the $97 (or $167)... ;-)

 

Medea Ioseliani

6 Years Ago

I still have many questions :D OK I will start:

1. Time matters - how big the material is - will one long weekend be enough to at least go through material and understand where to start from (I have full time job I barely afford time for painting, so it really matters)

2. Again time matters - roughly how much time it requires per day, I mean the work itself, to start getting some result (or does it differ and has some flexibility)
3. I have so far only 25 images on FAA -And most likely will not be able to add more than one per week - will it still be beneficial for me. Besides, I am self tough and not even self tough yet - and any professional eye will see the errors mistakes and I make - the quality is not perfect - is there a chance that it willstill work for me?
4. When it comes to some software learning and SEO staff I am getting little bit dumb - will be there a support available for people like me?

make me clear on these and as soon as I have my salary day I am in :))
& I will manage till the price will go high :)))

Thanks a lot for everyything so far :)

 

Adam Jewell

6 Years Ago

I'd look at it as the cost of the course, the time it takes to read/watch it and then the time to implement it. So I'm guessing that could be anywhere up to 100 hours to go through the course and then actually do it. If all that generates an additional $300.00 in revenue that comes out to around $1.50 - $2.00 an hour.

If there are results that show that over time it goes from $300 a month to $3,000 a month and grows a business and pays off over the long term then it looks like a good investment. In the grand scheme of things a $97 outlay for the course is probably not that much compared to the time investment required for pinterest. Kind of like the $30 to sign up for FAA is nothing compared to the time it takes to just upload a bunch of images and everything else.

 

David King

6 Years Ago

Speaking for myself, I've put a huge amount of time into things that gave me nothing, this may end up being another one of those things, but I can't do any worse so why not.

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Great questions, thank you!

Time matters (Medea and Adam):
It is hard to exactly tell how long it will take to go through the whole course. It will depend: do you already have a Pinterest account, how many boards and pins do you already have etc. For a Pinterest beginner it should be possible to go through the content in about 10 to 20 hours.
It is important to do the basic stuff the right way (setting the foundation). It is very important to be consistent (pinning every day, if possible two or three times a day). Some topics will take more time in the beginning than others but you don't have to do all at once. Yes, there is work to do but I assume there is no other way to get more sales. If you find one give me a holler ;-)
I spent lots and lots of time on Facebook and other social networks, this is exactly the reason I love Pinterest so much: I can see the results over time. I'm still on FB, Twitter, Instagram and G+ but I drastically reduced my time over there. Your mileage may vary, for extroverts that are really good in building communities over time IG may be a great tool.

Adam: if I could guarantee a revenue of $3000 per month from this course I would price it at $2997 - or higher ;-)

Support (Medea)
There will be no personal coaching for $167 or $97 (I can offer this but for a way higher price ;-)) but of course I will do my very best to answer all questions. I would prefer when students post them in the course discussion system (we use Disqus for this) but you can reach me by mail too. Just give me some time for some answers ;-)
I am very interested in any feedback as I have plans to enhance this course in the future.

David: I hope this won't be another one of those things for you. Just go through the lessons, implement all the things, be consistent and give it some time. I'm confident that Pinterest will help you drive qualified traffic to your art.

 

Justin Green

6 Years Ago

I hate Pinterest. So many times have I had to fill in the takedown notices.
The problems is, people copy my images, then upload, don't link back and don't even tell their followers who the photographer is.

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Justin: Fair enough. You will have the same problem with Facebook, Google+, Tumblr and all the others as well. People are posting pics anyway so I found it better to be active and pin them for myself, with the correct link. This is why I began to use Pinterest many years ago ;-)

 

Jessica Jenney

6 Years Ago

What about pricing of work on FAA. Does how you price your work come into play? I hear many thoughts around here how pricing one's work higher brings in more sales, but where is the proof of that? I see many of the big selling artists here price their work on the lower side.

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

the older images go to FAA, anything from the last 3 years, should be going to the artist site. any fan based boards - i have no control over. the numbers i gave you are from that same report and i don't have sales from that, let alone views. do you have an example website there? because i could not find you easily. i did find your logo and 3 fractals, but that's it.

even if it goes to faa, while i lose the stats, they can still buy from there. and i would imagine the stats wouldn't be that much different anyway.

in those goog stats - what report is that? the shopping cart i have, i can't find where you just those things listed as a big group. (i hate google analytics so very much)


$700 is no joke, but unless your making that daily, using pinterest, then i might be interested. my last sale was that amount, but i had delays before that (i assume due to vacations). on pinterest i have almost 2000 pins that i put up. they all have descriptions, some used to have a price on it (when that still worked), they all have hashtags, its all sorted and categorized. i seem to have a 120 fans that has my work (though i have no idea where those links go)


also how long did you have your board up - before you started making sales, and how often are you making sales from pinterest?


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Hi Jessica, great question! I'm in the process of creating a bonus lesson ("How to price your artwork"), it will be available in a few days. I will analyze the prices / markups of some of the big sellers here on FAA (anonymized of course).

I did this some years ago when I reworked my prices and will update / refine it for the course.

In short: Pricing higher will most often have no negative effect on the number of sales (if you do not overdo it of course). I would recommend higher markups especially for large sizes. Someone who wants to buy a 60'' Metal Print (and is willing to pay the shipping costs for this size) will usually not run away because of a higher markup.

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Mike:
This is my main Pinterest profile: https://www.pinterest.com/hauserfoto
Most of the links are going to https://matthias-hauser.pixels.com/
The GA report is Acquisition, All Traffic, Referrals
This is how you can add the shopping cart adds to GA: https://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=2230222

If I could make $700 daily with the help of Pinterest I would offer the course for $9997 or higher :-) I am sure you sell more on FAA than I do, but maybe Pinterest could help you selling even more. But if you hate it you might not consider buying a course. In my experience everybody has to find her / his marketing tool of choice.
Sales: they got better after I began to take Pinterest seriously in June 2016.

P.S. Hashtags: don't use them on Pinterest! They are great for Twitter or G+ but they make no sense on Pinterest. If someone clicks on a hashtag Pinterest triggers a search and boom - the person that looked at your pin is seeing a page with search results. Only exception is if you have your very own hashtags like #mikesavad

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

eventually i found your page in google, pinterest search was no help. if you charged anything more than $97 - no one would sign up. pricing does matter.

i have no solid marketing, i get lucky now and then and find the right spot for a while. using pinterest - i find its a pain in the neck to find anything specific. that site is more like a button collection, as a whole, it looks neat to go through all the shapes and colors. but try to find one single button that matches with another and you'll be sorting through it all day. with that site, it loads as you scroll, and you can't do a search at all. and even if you do, tons of things pops up. that's why i find it ineffective.

i've been taking that site "seriously" even after erasing it twice. and simply giving in because i couldn't prevent stuff from getting there. i'll take the advice about the tags, that point is true. though they did use to use them. i don't add nearly as many as i once did.

i looked at the site, and i see the basic stuff, only you have more followers. i have no idea how to get more of those, let alone the time to stroll through that place.


i use pin to get ideas on things, but would never think in a million years to buy anything from it, or use it as a place to find things to buy. i do wonder if those stats are really accurate. its closest to being a window shoppers paradise. but to find anything, i just don't see it happening. g+ same thing, i post there to be there, but don't see much from it. facebook is making sales some how.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Mike: I'm pretty sure the stats are accurate, sources are Shopify, Millward Brown and Kleiner Perkins.

Online Course pricing: This is one of the courses I bought (mainly geared towards bloggers): http://brilliant-business-moms.teachable.com/p/brilliant-pinning?affcode=35718_lzhrh-1n (Affiliate link). It costs $297. There are some others in the $400 to $500 range. Pinterest is really big in the blogging world.

Followers are less important than on social networks like FB. Group boards etc. are far more important to get traction.

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

but where did they source it from. and are they using shopify right on their site?


thing is what i'm trying to get at here is - i see no prices on your work, not much of a description (though i didn't click on the image so i guess its there), side by side our boards are matched, only you have 2500 followers and i have 500. and that's the only real difference. i'm not seeing what it is your doing differently, unless your pin was featured on a blog some place, in which case, it might as well have been a direct link.

what exactly is a group board?

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 
 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

usually when it comes to advertising, unless you get a steady stream of sales, then anything you get that is a single - is a lucky sale. while you could also nurse a sale, most of them are stumbling over it and buying it.

for me, i'm doing light maintenance, when i joined there was no way to add descriptions (or i didn't know there was), to the groups, and it seems the have categories now. so i'm filling that stuff out. beyond that, i don't care for their interface.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Mike, group boards are collaborative boards. They are invite only. Only invited members can pin their pics into a group board. Most of them are serving a special niche.

There are group boards with hundreds of thousands of followers, most of them are really interested in the topic of the board.

Group boards can be a fantastic way to get exposure on Pinterest and can lead to many repins / website clicks but it can be hard to find the right ones and get an invitation. This is why there is a whole chapter about group boards in the course (how to find them, what to look for when choosing one, the best ways to get an invitation, how to use them the right way etc.).

You may try to find some group boards about Steampunk, Victorian etc. People that follow this kind of boards will resonate very well with your images.

Pinterest Marketing for Artists

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

how does one find a private board?


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

JC Findley

6 Years Ago

Thanks

I have known for a long time that Pinterest drives most of my long term traffic to my site and look forward to wading into your online info to see how to improve it.

 

Joseph Westrupp

6 Years Ago

Mike, here's a site to find group boards: pingroupie.com.


—————
Joseph Westrupp
bestilled.com

 

Gales Of November

6 Years Ago

I'll take a look at this at work this evening if I get a chance. If not I don't have that chance, I'll check it out when I get home.

I'm always skeptical of someone selling something. I think it is great that it is driving most of the traffic to your site, but if it doesn't convert to sales it doesn't help me.

I don't do much promoting now, so I don't know that I'd actually spend the time do much with it. I suspect that that is more of the fact that I look at this as a hobby and when I do sell something I figure it is a fluke.

I am intrigued and will look into it..

 

Jim Hughes

6 Years Ago

I don't doubt that Pinterest is bringing traffic and sales to some people. As always, this sort of success depends a lot on your actual content and subject.

The problem I have with Pinterest (and SM in general) is it's hard to commit to spending a lot of time without any real confidence that it will do something. I tried a sort of a test on Pinterest. A few weeks ago I put most of my photos there, in boards I created. That's almost 400 photos, and I added a (brief) description for each one. I pinned these from my AWS so I'd have Google Analytics, and I did a few tests to be sure that linkup was working. After that I did nothing, just let them sit there - I haven't looked for other boards or tried to connect with people on Pinterest in any way. Once in a while, someone pins one of my photos to another board.

The main result seems to be big increase in the number of views that FAA reports, from Sunnyvale CA. I'd always seen a lot of hits from Sunnyvale before. but since pinning all these photos, Sunnyvale now completely swamps my views. I'm thinking maybe this is because my photos are showing up in people's Pinterest feeds. causing page accesses.

Google Analytics doesn't show any of these hits. I don't know if that's because they're not going to the AWS, or because GA is smart enough to filter out automated page accesses, i.e. bots.

The bottom line is, the traffic I'd be interested in would be actual human visitors to those AWS pages. And GA shows basically none. I think there have been 3 over the last 2 months. So if I take Google Analytics at face value, pinning my 400 photos on Pinterest has, by itself, done nothing.

I don't think this is conclusive, and I readily admit I'm not using Pinterest in any of the ways Matthias is suggesting. But my initial experiment hasn't been very motivating.

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Jim: thanks a lot for your post.

What you did is exactly the thing that will not work for most pinners. There may be some exceptions with people that have very unique stuff that goes viral on Pinterest without them.
If you have art in very competitive areas (landscape, nature, animals etc.) you will have to be active and consistent for some months to get traction.

Active means pinning a picture not only once but multiple times in different boards (not all at once). Active also means finding the right group boards and using them the right way. Group boards can be a great way for beginners to gain some steam on Pinterest. Consistent means pinning daily (if possible). Consistency is key.

Yes, there is work involved but it has not to be that time consuming. Doing the right things in the right order is key.

I hope you don't mind if I give you some feedback for your profile (only if you are still interested in Pinterest of course):

First of all: your profile pic is wonderful, love it! :-)
You might redo your profile description. The only useful keyword for Pinterest SEO is Minneapolis. Try to find some others, use Pinterest Guided Search for that.
Same for board descriptions: they are missing completely.
Your pin descriptions are o.k., short but sweet. Consider doing some longer ones, reseach your keywords with Guided Search.
Join more Group Boards. Your pocket watches photos are amazing. Try to find group boards for watch lovers!

Some of the topics above are part of the free lessons of the course (the descriptions, how to use guided search etc.). In lesson one (Why Pinterest?) you will find some interesting statistics about Pinterest traffic. The first three lessons are free (at the moment).

Yes, GA does filter out bot traffic. Pinterest sends lots of it (as Twitter, Facebook etc. are doing). One nice side effect of using Pinterest: it ranks relatively high in Google search.

Pinterest Marketing for Artists

 

Georgia Clare

6 Years Ago

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but I've recently started using this and it has saved me loads of time in pinning. I have 2 pinterest accounts and pin around 50-75 pins daily to each! ONLY with this program though, otherwise I wouldn't get much else done!!
https://BoardBooster.com/invite/CYDLT

In relation to Adam's comment earlier in the thread I recently paid $350 for an online course in marketing and the reason I shelled out for it was the proof that the person running it had made over 21000 sales on Etsy and $500k in a year! I figured she must be doing something right! If I could make $400 a day from Pinterest then that's something worth looking at, (but only if it was regular and not random as I often make that from my sales here and on Etsy).
However I do think that marketing is the absolute key to it all.

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

that really depends on what they are selling, and if they really used pinterest - or if they got lucky and it went viral. i wonder what they had where they had 21000 items, couldn't be handmade. and was it election based? that usually creates a spike in sale, but for a short time.

so far i'm doing everything that is said, and i get very few views from there. the only main difference is the invite only type boards of which i haven't a clue how to find them. while i went to that link above, the content is out of date, and i didn't see a way to join any. individual stats - i have none, i can't imagine why. it is a business group.


now the questions i have are:

1. the images that sold in those 3 weeks - were you pushing just those images?
2. are you making consistent sales with pinterest? not just earning views.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Georgia Clare

6 Years Ago

Mike, it wasn't a Pinterest course, it was a complete marketing course. One of the modules covered pinterest but the others were different forms of marketing.

Yes her items are handmade and what intrigued me is that she sells in a very highly saturated market. It didn't go viral and wasn't election based! She uses a 'marketing funnel'. In other words not just one form but a few that all work together, with clever hacks and time saving tips like the program I mentioned in my previous post.

I know for a fact too that many of my sales come from Pinterest, BUT...it has to be used correctly.

 

Georgia Clare

6 Years Ago

Mike, I also think that for $97 (one average sale!) Matthias' course would really benefit you as it seems to cover all the questions and issues you have.

Matthias, have you considered offering a money back guarantee on your course?! You could get people to prove that they've tried all your suggestions and if no results they get their money back. I've noticed this on quite a few online courses and I think it puts peoples mind at rest. No risk!

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

i still wonder how anyone can make 21000 hand made items. seems impossible to me. did they share what item that was?

i personally don't believe in paying for courses. mostly because if he found it for free, so can i. more than that, if he only got 1 sale from that place, or even 10 sales, if its not consistent. and its not the thing he was pushing, then its a random sale.

right now the only thing left to try is getting onto these private boards, but i see no real list of where i can go or how to find the. i tried the pin groupie thingy and it was out dated by months, and it was like a private board in a major collection and i didn't see any invites. so i don't know what the deal is there.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

David King

6 Years Ago

"still wonder how anyone can make 21000 hand made items. seems impossible to me. did they share what item that was?"

She probably isn't making it all herself, but has employees. I remember an article like that for someone (might be the same person) who was selling handmade jewelry that way, the owner of the company would make the designs and have employees crank out copies and her sales claims were quite high as well, however once you subtract costs the net profit won't be that impressive.

 

Jessica Jenney

6 Years Ago

I remember all the complaints about Pinterest years ago and how photographer were warned that their work could be pinned without any link back.
Many of us disabled the Pinterest icon here. What has changed?

 

David King

6 Years Ago

"What has changed?"

Nothing in regards to that issue as far as I know, however it's true of anywhere you post your art on the internet, much ado about nothing IMO. I can pin an image from just about any url, nobody needs your pinterest button to do that, in fact I'm sure all the power pinners out there have the pinterest browser button installed.

 

Jessica Jenney

6 Years Ago

Many of my images from different sites are on Pinterest, pinned by others. Have no clue if it's helping me with sales?

 

David King

6 Years Ago

"Have no clue if it's helping me with sales?"

Probably not unless you get real lucky. Like anything you have to work Pinterest hard and deliberately (and consistently) in order for it to have an impact on sales.

 

Mike Savad

6 Years Ago

i remember when someone said they made $30,000 in a month. which sounded really impressive until they told us what their bills were from the sponsoring and such, which was around $28,000.. they came out ahead though. sort of like going to the casino, and telling everyone you won $1000, but when you ask how did you lose, they don't say they lost $2500 getting it.


i've been looking around on pinterest. i found a number of images that went to dead links. others that went to sites that were dead links. many didn't mention me by name, but the name was in the link. found one lady that took my horizontal images and compressed them into a portrait format, like an accordion. none of those went back to me and they all looked terrible. i had another one that was from the pin me group on this site, who took the thumbnail from that page and didn't credit me. when clicked it ended up on that group instead, in a mish mash of other images.

i joined there because i was tired of people circumventing the no pins on this site thing we have here. they would take it from the search, google and their own hard drive. all so they can add something to a collection. its a site for hoarders. i wanted control over it which is why i joined there. i just don't see how adding my image to a group that has a bunch of people in it - how they will even see my images, let alone think to buy it.

and while many links unfortunately are on the top of a google search, not all links lead back to your page. and you may not find the link once clicked on, so having it there actually hurts sales.

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Medea Ioseliani

6 Years Ago

I am on pinterest for about two months or so, of course I have not made any sales yet but I was monitoring it :) and I only have 139 followers and suspect that more than half of them are my more experienced competitors :)

It definitely works for traffic I mean considering the amount of time I put there and considering the amount of images I have I know it works :) for traffic at least. Write now I have experimented, today I had dead traffic here on FAA today and I have pinned sth in about half an hour I had 20 more views (I am relatively new here as well, so this number counts for me, something similar I had monitored yesterday as well)

Tomorrow I will experiment a bit more and purchase the program :)

 

Jim Hughes

6 Years Ago

@Matthias, thanks for your detailed response, I will take your suggestions to heart.

 

Dawn Braun

6 Years Ago

Following!

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Thanks for your feedback everyone! The launch phase is slowly coming to an end, beginning Monday the course will be sold for the regular price of $167.

My time is limited (I want to get my feet wet with some Facebook Ads for the course over the weekend) but I will try to answer every question short and sweet ;-)

Georgia:
I have a short lesson about Pinterest Schedulers (Tailwind and BoardBooster) in the course. I tried both, both are great but I decided to buy a Tailwind subscription because of their Tribes (amazing idea!).
Money back guarantee: I had thought about this but decided to offer some free lessons instead. But you made me think...

Jessica:
There are still enough artists out there that hate Pinterest and will not use it - which is o.k.! But: images are "stolen" on every place (FB, G+, Tumblr, you name it) and one can not control what others are posting / pinning etc. so many photographers and painters decided to pin their own stuff, with good descriptions and with a correct link back to their work.

Medea:
I love your attitude. I really do. I followed you on Pinterest since you offered access to your group board and I'm happy I did. Would be great to see you in the course.

Jim: You're very welcome!

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Joseph Westrupp

6 Years Ago

Mike, getting invited to group boards is a kind of holy grail (as far as my experience goes), there's no straightforward easy way to do it. Actually, it seems like it's almost a hack; Pinterest doesn't really seem set up to encourage it.


—————
Joseph Westrupp
bestilled.com

 

J L Meadows

6 Years Ago

I don't see how Pinterest could help me.

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Finding the right group boards and getting an invite can be challenging but they are no mystery, they are real and they can really help to get traction :-)

I just decided to make the introductory lesson of my chapter about group boards free for a limited time.

It is Chapter 4 (The power of group boards), lesson 1 (Group boards, the basics and why they are important). You can access all the free lessons here: http://marketing-for-artists.com

This lesson will only be free during the launch period of the course until Monday 24th (when the price will go up to the regular price).

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Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

I finished the last bonus lesson of the course (How to price your artwork). I analyzed the markups of eight FAA Artists that sell really well (of course they will stay anonymous, no names). Many new FAA members seem to have problems pricing their work. Often they start with very low markups, thinking they will sell more art this way. Maybe this comparison can help. I also compare different Print on Demand markup systems ($ based and percentage based).

The "How to price your artwork" bonus lesson will be free until tomorrow, you will find it in the "Bonus Material" section here: http://marketing-for-artists.com

FYI: The launch price ($97) will only be good for one more day, then the regular price ($167) will kick in.
Still some time left to check out the free lessons and to decide if you like them or not.

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Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Just a friendly reminder: the course price for "How to sell more art with Pinterest" will go up today at 2PM CST (Monday, July the 24th).

Some hours left to check out the free lessons before deciding if the course is a fit for you. I provide five free lessons, check them out here: http://marketing-for-artists.com

Pinterest Marketing for Artists

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

I made another video ad for the course, enjoy:



Pinterest Marketing for Artists

 

Matthias Hauser

6 Years Ago

Many thanks to the artists that bought my online course "How to sell more art with Pinterest" for $97!

If you are still on the fence: check out the free lessons: http://marketing-for-artists.com
Price will go up to $167 today (July 24th) at 2PM CST

I will continue to add new content and the course will be refined consistently. I already got some great feedback for new lessons thanks to the course discussion system (where students can ask questions and everybody can see the answers).

There will be a relaunch at a higher price point in the autumn, as soon as the additional content is integrated and tested.
All students that purchased the course for $167 or $97 (and all of the beta testers) will get full access to the reworked course without additional costs.

I will close this discussion now as I will focus on answering questions via email and FAA private message. Any questions? Just ask, I will do my very best to answer all of them before 2PM.

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