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The 25-75 Rule For New Members

Floyd Snyder

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November 12th, 2016 - 09:11 AM

The 25-75 Rule For New Members

How many images you have for sale is important to how many sales you can expect to make.

I would suggest you forget the threads, groups, sponsoring pages, contests, likes, favorites, worrying about the FAA search ranking, views and all of the other stuff too many people get all bogged down in. That is assuming you are more interested in selling than socializing.

You should spend 75% of your time creating and uploading your art and 25% advertising your Artist Website OUTSIDE of FAA. Until you get closer to 250-300 images I would stay that course. Once you get to the 300 images, your goal should be to add images and get the number up as high as possible. There IS a direct relationship to the number of images and number of sales.

That said someone is going to no doubt come in here and tell you about the people that have less than 100 or less 50 that sell every day. And that is true. But they are very, very, very rare and they have special circumstances such as a famous name when they came here, connections with outside organizations that promote their work or some other special circumstances.

I have been here right at 4 years (as of November 2016). I did all of the above and tracked sales and their relationship to all of the things above. I found that there was ZERO relationship to sales and everything else except adding images and outside advertising. That said, I am not one of the top sellers in FAA but I do sell every day for the most part. The top sellers never show up in the threads.

Jump in, get your feet wet and get your Premium up and running. The sooner you get it up, the sooner it will start being indexed by searches OUTSIDE of FAA.

A couple of quick tips.

Keywords are critical but make sure you do not accidentally spam. If it not in the image or directly related to the image, do not put it in the keywords. They will make you redo them if they think they are spam.

Make sure you use good descriptions with as many search terms that you can think of.

Same thing with titles. Example: "Red Rose" okay "Red Rose Mission Santa Barbara" better.

Facebook used right is a very valuable tool. There are others but you mentioned you have a Facebook page. First, forget the idea of Facebook is an avenue of staying in touch with friends and relatives. You have to think outside those old notions of Facebook.

You simply cannot get enough "friends" to make a market for your work. The secret of Facebook is joining groups and getting your posts shared. And NOT groups of only artist. If you sell Christian art, join Christian groups, if you sell florals, join gardening groups. I sell a lot of western art. I belong to all of the western groups where western buffs hang out.

Do not just join and start spamming them with your images. Check out the group and watch what others are posting.

DO NOT put a link or a sales pitch in your posts. Put the links that go back to you to your AW where it is seen ONLY if someone clicks on your image.

Interact with the group. Make comments, make friends, like and share other people's post and they will do that the same for you making for a much broader based reach.

But remember, this is a marathon, not a sprint.

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Ashdod

Thank you!

Henrypi

3 Years Ago

Leinfelden Echterdingen, Baden Wuerttemberg

I am fairly new to this site and my main intentions were to have a website for my art and photography and a dear friend recommended FAA.. my first and foremost intention is to get my work noticed well a sale or two might be nice. Most all of my original art I used to create (more than 25 years ago) and my new stuff (started again a month ago ) I gave away or with my new stuff I donated it for auction benefiting charities. Never the less very valuable information thank you

Henrypi

3 Years Ago

Leinfelden Echterdingen, Baden Wuerttemberg

I am fairly new to this site and my main intentions were to have a website for my art and photography and a dear friend recommended FAA.. my first and foremost intention is to get my work noticed well a sale or two might be nice. Most all of my original art I used to create (more than 25 years ago) and my new stuff (started again a month ago ) I gave away or with my new stuff I donated it for auction benefiting charities. Never the less very valuable information thank you

James DeFazio

4 Years Ago

Warminster, PA

Floyd, thanks for the information but I am confused about something you say "DO NOT put a link or a sales pitch in your posts." But then you say "Put the links that go back to you to your AW where it is seen ONLY if someone clicks on your image." It seems to me that you are saying don't put a link but put a link to your AW.

Jill Love

5 Years Ago

Lakeland, MI

Great information! Thank you! :)

Carola Hume

6 Years Ago

Oxenford, QLD

thank you for taking the time to explain the AW abbreviation. i had a look at you site, very nice work Carlin ! cheerio carola

Austin, TX

Going to try this again... @ Carola Hume AW stands for Artist Website. Premium Membership on Fine Art America/Pixels includes a personal Artist Website for selling prints. It looks the same as your FAA website, with the main value being that the site is dedicated only to your art and no other artists. Here is mine for you to see as an example https://carlin-blahnik.pixels.com/

Austin, TX

@ Carola Hume

Carola Hume

6 Years Ago

Oxenford, QLD

Does anyone know what the 'AW' abbreviation means in the 3rd last paragraph (4th line) in floyd synder's article above ?????

Brian Kurtz

6 Years Ago

Taylor, MI

Excellent post. To the point and relevant.

Jayne Wilson

7 Years Ago

Tomball, TX

Great tips - thank you!

LEANNE SEYMOUR

7 Years Ago

WEST RYDE, NSW

Thanks for the advice and tips.....always value experienced advice such as yours Floyd!

Howard Roberts

7 Years Ago

Norristown, pa

Thank you for doing this article , proved very good info. I have been here two months and just recently passed a 5000 view goal i had set for myself. Thank you again Howard Roberts

Glenn Galen

8 Years Ago

Minneapolis, MN

Great stuff. Thank you so much for taking the time to organize and share this extremely useful information.

Floyd Snyder

8 Years Ago

Santa Maria, CA

You break your albums down to subject matter. Featuring our Top Five Most Popular Western Images at FASGallery.com. Enjoy! -Floyd Snyder!

Floyd Snyder

8 Years Ago

Santa Maria, CA

Here's another method I use. I will make of Album of the last five images that were featured in a grope (this is the only use I have found for groups). Then I will say something like: These five images by FASGallery.com artist, Barbara Snyder, have received special recondition on FineArtAmerica, home of over 100,000 artist. Enjoy! -Floyd Snyder

Floyd Snyder

8 Years Ago

Santa Maria, CA

Gary, when you build your album to be posted, you put the link in the description right each picture. You do not put the link directly in the post you make to FB. You just make some sort of netural comment. I use something like: "From the Favorties Collection of FASGally.com Enjoy! - Floyd Snyder" That becomes something like a signature but no a sales pitch.

Gary Slawsky

8 Years Ago

Hazlet, NJ

You mentioned not placing a link directly in a post but only where the viewer would see it if clicking on a posted image. Where exactly is such a link placed? I have been reading some of your marketing posts and they have been very helpful. Thanks!

Katey jane Andrews

8 Years Ago

Bedford, bedfordshire

I joined May this year, not 100% sure of how well FAA does here in the UK, i sold my first art just over a moth ago which was a massive shock. I find some of the UK member's don't do as well as overseas, not sure what so ever how long it takes to become known or what ever. I'm not the biggest people person you will meet, I'm just old me going about my life and enjoying photography but wanting to make this my full time living.

R Scott Duncan

8 Years Ago

Vero Beach, FL

Great advice. New here and had no idea where to start. First off, I was worried about views and interacting here on FAA, but my instinct told me to work outside. Second, number of images I post will also take time. Like your comment about marathon vs sprint. Thanks again.

Floyd Snyder

8 Years Ago

Santa Maria, CA

Socializing is fine as long as you realize it will not produce sales. FAA member simply do not buy from one another in any significant numbers to make the time spent worthwhile.

Travel Pics

8 Years Ago

London, England

I do like the socialising.