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Ankita Raut

7 Years Ago

Watermark Or No Watermark

i know people here suggest to remove watermark because buyers get turned off by it. So i had removed watermark from my paintings.
But whenever i search my paintings on google, i see that, the without watermark images can easily downloaded. i sell digital files on etsy, and this is making me nervous. those who want to get digital files of my work, will just google it and avoid paying me for the digital copy.

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Richard Reeve

7 Years Ago

It's a dilemma, but in the end anything posted in the web can be copied. It's the cost of doing business.

~Richard
Inspiring Images at reevephotos.com

 

Jeffery Johnson

7 Years Ago

It really is up too you if you want it or not. Though do keep in mind the watermark they have here will not appear on your uploads that have the white background. The text color they use is white so it will blend into the background.

Jeffery Johnson | Photo Captures by Jeffery
http://www.PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com

 

Roy Pedersen

7 Years Ago

The general opinion here is not to use it as it can put some people off and it can also be easily removed. In the end of course it is up to you.

 

Don Zawadiwsky

7 Years Ago

If someone lifts an FAA image, it's going to be a very low resolution file, so it's not quite the same situation. I'm assuming that your etsy files are much higher resolution than any screen resolution files here.

 

Abbie Shores

7 Years Ago

Hello

To be quite frank, as soon as someone opens a web page they have all the images on it placed in their computer temporary folders. We do have a 'no right click' in place here on the image pages, but most browsers now come with that code ignored as standard.

People can also take a screenshot of the image on any device.

You have to weigh what is more important. Sales or a false sense of security. If you do not want the image taken at all then the only way is to not have it on the web. The image on Google search is just the same image that is on your images page here. That is the one they use.

We do not show your full resolution image anywhere, only previews of it. The large image is safely locked away on a secure server somewhere we do not tell anyone about. Even when you use the high res viewer for customers, they only get sections and, if they copied all sections, they would not create the whole full size version.

Watermarks are ok but are easily removed from any image In fact there are special programmes out there designed to remove them and with the new editors it is easy to clone them out also. Watermarks also deter buyers as more than a few think it is printed on their purchase. It doesn't stop sales altogether but there are less sales of watermarked images.

We do have some great threads in the discussion area about this. Put STEALING, COPYRIGHT or WATERMARKS in the discussion search

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Diane Thornton

7 Years Ago

I vote watermark. Yes, it can be removed, but it adds another step to whoever wants to remove it. And yes, screen shot can totally grab your image, and yes, it's low-res, which means it's not going to print well, but it CAN be used for bogus online sales (where they're not really filling orders), or on web pages. Yes, all images are steal-able, but imo it's better to make them jump through some hoops if they want to do it. One way to inform the buyer that it will be removed is to put that fact in every image's description. I need to do this at some point!

 

Abbie Shores

7 Years Ago

Diane, they use the images with watermarks for bogus sales, also so you're not losing anything except the chance of a sale.

 

Geoff Smith

7 Years Ago

I've always struggled to accept that any potential purchaser would think the watermark actually appears on the final print. Are people really put off? I agree with Diane, as it makes it just a bit more of a pain for it to be removed.

Abbie - Do the statistics show very clearly that sales of watermarked images are lower than non-watermarked, or is it something like 51/49% ? If it makes a very definite difference to sales then I probably will remove the watermark, even though I don't understand why people would think it's printed that way. I'm not sure that adding text stating that it won't be printed would help much, as anyone put off by it would likely not even read the text.

Geoff.

 

Bonfire Photography

7 Years Ago

I use it and agree with you Geoff. I would rather have the security and make it more difficult to copy with ease. As far as people believing it is part of the print no comment.

 

Abbie Shores

7 Years Ago

I'm sorry you do not give new people to buying online the benefit of not knowing how things work but it is quite true. Many do not realise. Many new artists do not realise either.

 

Geoff Smith

7 Years Ago

I'm not too sure how to take that. I give anyone new to buying any benefit to help that I think they need. I have no problem at all mentioning in the description that watermarks are not printed, IF that would make a difference. My point was that they would probably not read that if they already believed the image would be printed with a watermark, as one look and they'd be off.

 

Mike Savad

7 Years Ago

i've been here long enough that even the artists ask if the watermark is on there when its printed. many customers have a hard time imagining what it would look like in their house. the logo in the way may be the deal breaker.

people that want it will take it. simple as that. its a small image, yes it can be used for other things. it takes a minute or less to remove it depending on the background. its not much of a step. the stock sites with the writing all over - that takes a while or is impossible. but that would uglify it too much.

now i suppose if he used some kind of flash or java so the image was only on the faa screen, that would curb the downloading, i thought of this method, but then google images wouldn't be able to go to us so easily and i have had hits from there.

i've seen customers come in here asking about the mark as well. i don't think it helps sales, and i don't think it prevents stealing. the most it does is, it allow people to know it came from here - but no who belongs to it. in a defense if amazon is emailed, the person who sent your image up there, could easily make a FAA account here and put those images on their site, making it look like their images.

selling the digital image on etsy, without the lawyers of a stock site is tricky, because many buyers may think they now own the image. and those people may put your full size image online thinking its ok. i've seen it over and over. they take a full size graphic and shrink it down in html, but its still full size. and that's even worse.

i sell my things as art only, to be printed, the actual graphic can be used for anything if your not using a contract. and it could even be used to sell against you... hopefully your using some form of a contract. i didn't think etsy was set up like that.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Edward Fielding

7 Years Ago

Sounds like you answered your own question in the original post.

Once you release your image into the wild without any indication of its origins, its out there flowing in the ether.

 

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